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January 10, 2016 · 14:49



Pat is so intense in his condemnation of “vegetable abusers” that he doesn’t notice that his sitting room (beyond the door behind him) is on fire!  A prelude of things to come for this turnip whose heid is full of mince (and tatties)?

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Muslims, Marks and Pork ….. continued

Sainsbury’s, meanwhile, has issued its official policy on the matter in the form of a pamphlet called “The Little Book of Faith”. It said it had come up with the guidance following research conducted with religious groups, and had concluded that just because a person was not able to eat pork or drink alcohol didn’t mean they should be allowed to avoid handling them altogether.

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Booze, Pork, Marks and Muslims

from the Telegraph

By Robert Mendick, Chief Reporter

10:00PM GMT 21 Dec

Muslim staff working for Marks & Spencer have been given permission to refuse to serve customers buying alcohol or pork products

Its policy decision has highlighted a split among the big food retailers over whether religious staff should be excused certain jobs.

In contrast to M&S, Sainsbury’s said it had issued official guidelines that stated there was no reason why staff who did not drink alcohol or eat pork for religious reasons could not handle the goods.

The advice followed consultations with religious groups, said a spokesman.

Tesco said it treated each case on its merits, but said it “made no sense” to employ staff on a till who refused to touch certain items for religious reasons.

Asda said it would not deploy Muslims on tills who objected to handling alcohol, while Morrisons, which is based in Bradford where there is a large Muslim community, said it had widespread experience of dealing with the issue and would “respect and work around anyone’s wishes not to handle specific products for religious or cultural reasons”.

At M&S, Muslim staff who do not wish to handle alcohol or pork have been told they can politely request that customers choose another till at which to pay.

At one of its stores in central London last week, customers waiting with goods that included pork or alcohol were told by a Muslim checkout worker to wait until another till became available. The assistant was extremely apologetic at having to ask customers to wait.

One customer, who declined to be named, said: “I had one bottle of champagne, and the lady, who was wearing a headscarf, was very apologetic but said she could not serve me. She told me to wait until another member of staff was available.

“I was taken aback. I was a bit surprised. I’ve never come across that before.”

Customers trying to buy alcoholic drinks for Christmas were also asked to wait.

An M&S spokesman said: “We recognise that some of our employees practise religions that restrict the food or drink they can handle, or that mean they cannot work at certain times.

“M&S promotes an environment free from discrimination and so, where specific requests are made, we will always make reasonable adjustments to accommodate them, whilst ensuring high levels of customer service.”

The policy applies throughout its 700-plus stores. The spokesman said the policy of tolerance applied to other religions, so, for example, Christians who did not want to work on Sundays and religious Jews who chose not to work on Saturdays would also be excused. “This is something we decide on a case-by-case basis,” the spokesman added.

Sainsbury’s policy is set out in a booklet called The Little Book of Faith, which was issued by its human-resources department.

A spokesman said: “We have guidelines in place that set out the requirements and beliefs of different religions, which we have previously discussed and agreed with religious organisations and community groups.

“We treat everyone fairly, so although our colleagues on tills or replenishing stock will be asked to handle alcohol and meat, we will always work closely with individuals to ensure we are inclusive and fair to all.”

Sainsbury’s guidance advises that all staff — regardless of religious beliefs — are able to handle meat and alcohol. In other words, the same rules apply to everyone, irrespective of religion.

“If a [religious] belief involves not eating or drinking something in particular, they can still handle the food or drink as part of their job,” said a Sainsbury’s source.

The supermarket added that it would consult on a “case-by-case basis” if need be.

Morrisons said it had been a long-standing, unwritten rule that Muslim staff could opt out of serving alcohol.

A Morrisons spokesman said: “We would respect and work around anyone’s wishes not to handle specific products for religious or cultural reasons, regardless of the time of year.”

A Tesco spokesman said: “We don’t have a specific policy and take a pragmatic approach if a colleague raises concerns about a job they have been asked to do.”

She added: “It would not make sense to have somebody on the till if they cannot handle certain items.”

Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, the former bishop of Rochester, who has voiced fears that Britain is losing its Christian identity and warned of the dangers of the influence of radical Islamic beliefs, said supermarket customers risked feeling uncomfortable if they were told they would have to wait to be served just because they were buying alcohol.

He said: “If supermarkets do not put up a notice saying this desk does not handle alcoholic beverages, it runs the risk shoppers could be humiliated when they get to the checkout.”

Shopworkers — Christian or not — have the right to refuse to work on Sundays, although Dr Nazir-Ali believes many choose not to exercise that right for fear of missing out on promotions or losing wages.

A report issued in 2005 by the Muslim Council for Britain and the former Department of Trade and Industry considers the example of a devout Muslim asked to work on the meat section of a supermarket.

The official guidance concludes: “If you feel that you cannot handle pork as a Muslim, then you should discuss this with your manager.

“A policy that all staff must work in the meat section of the supermarket may amount to indirect discrimination since it disadvantages Muslims.

“Your employer should try and accommodate your request where possible.”

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Muslim Patrol

By Telegraph Reporters12:00PM GMT 17 Jan 2013
The hooded men, who call themselves Muslim Patrol, have been filmed loitering around English streets and intimidating people.
They have uploaded videos to their YouTube channel with the most recent three-minute clip causing a stir online.
“The Truth About Saturday Night”, which was uploaded on Sunday, has already been viewed more than 42,000 times.
It was shot on a mobile phone at night in what is believed to be East London, with a number of men seen shouting ‘this is a Muslim area’ towards white Brits they’ve confronted.
The video description states: “From women walking the street dressed like complete naked animals with no self respect, to drunk people carrying alcohol, to drunks being killed in the middle of the road, we try our best to capture and forbid it all.”
One scene shows the hooded yobs forcing a passing man to put a can of lager away, telling the stunned gentleman they are the Muslim Patrol and that alcohol is a “forbidden evil”.
They then tell a group of women “they need to forbid themselves from dressing like this and exposing themselves outside the mosque”.
On another occasion, a young lady takes offence to their requests and tells them they’re in Great Britain at which point they respond by saying “they don’t respect those who disobey God”.
The group add: “We don’t care if you are appalled at all”, before calling themselves “vigilantes implementing Islam upon your own necks”.
Mohammed Shafiq, the chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim organisation which campaigns for a peaceful co-existence among communities, has condemned the group’s behaviour.
He said: “We live in the UK and we are governed by UK law, there should be no mob rule. If people are involved in this behaviour then it is worrying but it is an isolated incident.”
The vigilante video follows an earlier clip made by the group where they protested against adverts for push-up bras by High Street retailer H&M.
In the clip they say: “The Muslims have taken it upon themselves to command the good and forbid the evil and cover up these naked people.”
They then show a number of adverts for the product which has been sprayed over and also film themselves pouring petrol over one advert and setting it on fire.


Three members of a self-styled “Muslim Patrol” vigilante group have been jailed for harassing, intimidating and assaulting people on the streets of east London while claiming they were enforcing sharia law.  judge at the Old Bailey had heard that Jordan Horner, 19, Ricardo MacFarlane, 26, and a 23-year-old man who cannot be named for legal reasons, had terrorised a couple for walking through Bethnal Green holding hands, told a woman in Stepney that she would be punished in “hellfire” because of the way she was dressed, and attacked a group of men who were drinking in Shoreditch.

Horner – who has previously said he wants to bring sharia law to Britain – was jailed for a total of 17 months after pleading guilty to two charges of assault and two charges of using threatening words and behaviour.

MacFarlane was sentenced to 12 months in prison after pleading guilty to affray, while the 23-year-old received a six-month sentence after pleading guilty to affray.

Passing sentence on Friday, Judge Rebecca Poulet QC told them that while Islam was a peaceful religion, their conduct was “unfortunately anything but”.

“One of the many good things about living in Great Britain is the tolerance and respect members of the public generally show to one another’s religious beliefs, his dress or his chosen way of life.

“When, on occasions, a person shows their intolerance of another individual, whether by aggression or violence and in such a way as to cause real fear to the individual, then the law can be invoked to protect that individual.”

The judge said that her sentencing powers were restricted because the prosecution had chosen not to prefer religiously aggravated offences.

The court had been told that Horner and the 23-year-old man drove alongside Joshua Bilton and Anna Reddiford in Bethnal Green and yelled at them through a megaphone.

Horner shouted: “Let go of each other’s hands. This is a Muslim area!”

 The couple initially believed it was a joke but the group repeated the warning until they let go of each other’s hands.

 When they started holding hands again a few minutes later the car re-appeared and blocked their path until they let go.

 Two weeks later, on 6 January this year, Horner and MacFarlane attacked a group of men drinking in the streets of Shoreditch.

 They said that they were there to “enforce Sharia law” in “Allah’s land”, and shouted: “Kill the non-believers”.

 Horner then punched two of the group, hitting James Forward in the jaw and knocking out Patrick Kavanagh with a punch to the head.

 A week later, Horner and the 23-year-old confronted another couple, Clare Coyle and Robert Gray, walking in the street in Stepney. The 23-year-old accused Coyle of dressing inappropriately in a Muslim area and that she would be punished in “hellfire”.

Horner filmed the incident on his mobile phone and called Clare Coyle a “slag”. She told him: “This is Great Britain. I can dress how I wish.”

 In the video, which was later uploaded to YouTube, the group can be heard shouting: “You need to control this area and forbid people from exposing   themselves outside the mosque. Remove yourselves now. Muslim Patrol. Move away from the mosque. Don’t come back. We don’t respect those who disrespect God.”

Horner, who changed his name to Jamal Uddin, was jailed for six weeks in July this year for assaulting a photographer and causing £3,000 of damage to a car in an attack in Walthamstow. He was also seen putting up posters across east London “banning” alcohol.


One of the three members of ‘Muslim Patrol’, Ricardo MacFarlane, outside the Old Bailey. Photograph: Ed Willcox/Central News


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The Sabbath 2 – Thirst after Righteousness

In Scotland, it used to be the case that one could only purchase alcohol on a Sunday, if one were a “bona fide” traveller.  If memory serves me correct (I’m think back over 40 years here), only hotel bars were open in the evening; pubs closed all day.

My friend Murray and I used to take the subway to Buchanan Street, Glasgow.  Opposite the station was an hotel with a large bar. Of course, technically, we were “travellers”

On one occasion, I noticed a group of middle aged men sitting in a corner.  They were wearing dark suits and black ties.

An undertakers’ convention?  or perhaps they’d been to a funeral as mourners and were stopping off for a drink before going home?  no, no funerals on a Sunday.

Then I overheard one of them say something like “Blast! I’ve left my watch at the Kirk – I took it off when we were cleaning up the Communion cups”

They were elders from some church nearby!  Obviously, a case of “thirst after righteousness” 🙂


It was only in the late eighties that off-sales were legally permitted to open in Scotland on a Sunday (I think only in the evenings).

On the first Sunday of this happening, I drove from Musselburgh where I lived at the time to Portobello which is a short distance away. I did so because I didn’t want to be spotted buying booze on the Sabbath in my own town.

There was a Haddows in the main street and I duly bought some beer (and crisps) which I carried out in a branded plastic bag.

Now, immediately outside that “offie” was a bus stop and, just as I left the shop, a bus pulled in and, to my horror, several members of my congregation’s (Woman’s) Guild got off.

One eyed my Haddow’s carrier bag……

….. “Oh just some odds and ends” said I, “the boys wanted some crisps”

With a wry smile on her face, one of the ladies said, “you’d better get them home then, while they’re still chilled!”

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The Meenister’s Log

This is a golden oldie, but I still like it…….

Arthur was sitting outside his local pub one day, enjoying a quiet pint and generally feeling good about himself, when a nun suddenly appears at his table and starts decrying the evils of drink.

“You should be ashamed of yourself young man! Drinking is a Sin! Alcohol is the blood of the devil!”

Now Arthur gets pretty annoyed about this, and goes on the offensive.

“How would  you know, Sister?”

“My Mother Superior told me so”

“But have you ever had a drink yourself? How can you be sure that what you are saying is right?

“Let me buy you a drink – if you still believe afterwards that it is evil I will give up drink for life”

“How could I, a Nun, sit outside this public house drinking?!”

“I’ll get the barman to put it in a teacup for you, them no-one will know”

The Nun reluctantly agrees, so Arthur goes inside to the bar.

“Another pint for me, and a triple vodka on the rocks”, then he lowers his voice and says to the barman “… and could you put the vodka in a teacup?”

“Oh no! It’s not that old nun again, is it?”


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